1 00:00:29,620 --> 00:00:08,680 reading citizens and welcome to unknown 2 00:00:31,540 --> 00:00:29,630 [Music] 3 00:00:34,210 --> 00:00:31,550 I'm Jason McClellan thanks for hanging 4 00:00:37,090 --> 00:00:34,220 out with me unidentified inside 5 00:00:39,729 --> 00:00:37,100 America's UFO investigation the new UFO 6 00:00:41,410 --> 00:00:39,739 show on history brought to us by Tom 7 00:00:44,770 --> 00:00:41,420 DeLonge and his team of military 8 00:00:47,049 --> 00:00:44,780 government and aerospace insiders at to 9 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:47,059 the stars Academy aired its third 10 00:00:53,530 --> 00:00:51,050 episode on Friday June 14th today will 11 00:00:54,430 --> 00:00:53,540 once again provide a brief recap of this 12 00:00:57,549 --> 00:00:54,440 episode 13 00:01:00,070 --> 00:00:57,559 followed by individual thoughts and 14 00:01:06,340 --> 00:01:00,080 opinions but first let's get some 15 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:06,350 announcements out of the way week of 16 00:01:12,370 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00:01:42,439 and we'd love to see you if you're going 31 00:01:47,289 --> 00:01:44,960 to be there we'll be at the scum and 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:47,299 villainy Cantina in Hollywood on the 33 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:49,850 night of Friday June 21st as part of a 34 00:01:54,459 --> 00:01:52,640 larger alien con podcast mega Meetup 35 00:01:56,020 --> 00:01:54,469 which starts at 7 p.m. 36 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:56,030 check out the rogue planet Facebook 37 00:02:03,090 --> 00:01:57,439 group for more information about the 38 00:02:09,370 --> 00:02:05,760 alright let's get into our unidentified 39 00:02:12,310 --> 00:02:09,380 conversation first here's a brief recap 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:12,320 of what episode 3 of unidentified showed 41 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:16,610 us in episode 2 we met radar specialist 42 00:02:21,490 --> 00:02:18,650 Kevin day who reportedly observed 43 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:21,500 hundreds of UFOs on radar back during 44 00:02:27,490 --> 00:02:25,310 the 2004 Nimitz UFO incident and he 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:27,500 provided Lou Elizondo with the 46 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:29,690 coordinates to where Kevin says he saw 47 00:02:35,770 --> 00:02:33,200 these UFOs disappear from radar in 48 00:02:38,770 --> 00:02:35,780 episode 3 Lou meets up with Sean Cahill 49 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:38,780 who was aboard the USS Princeton during 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:40,870 the 2004 incident 51 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:43,090 the to travel to Baja California in 52 00:02:49,949 --> 00:02:45,220 Mexico where they talk with local 53 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:49,959 fishermen about UFO sightings and USO 54 00:02:55,020 --> 00:02:52,510 sightings as well now if you're not 55 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:55,030 familiar with the term us o us o is 56 00:03:01,530 --> 00:02:57,970 essentially a UFO on the water and this 57 00:03:05,250 --> 00:03:01,540 can either refer to just strange objects 58 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:05,260 that are in the water and sometimes they 59 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:08,049 refer to UFOs that dive into the water 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:11,110 UFOs become you SOS but if you'd like to 61 00:03:14,610 --> 00:03:12,730 learn more about us os 62 00:03:17,009 --> 00:03:14,620 I highly recommend looking into the work 63 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:17,019 of Paul Stonehill Paul's done a 64 00:03:20,910 --> 00:03:19,030 fantastic job researching this topic so 65 00:03:22,860 --> 00:03:20,920 just search for Paul Stonehill and he's 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:22,870 got some incredible information about us 67 00:03:28,020 --> 00:03:25,810 os back to unidentified the team then 68 00:03:30,270 --> 00:03:28,030 takes a boat out to Guadalupe Island the 69 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:30,280 location were Kevin day says the UFOs 70 00:03:35,339 --> 00:03:33,489 disappeared from his scopes Lou and 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:35,349 Shawn speak with fishermen near the 72 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:37,810 island about their UFO sightings and 73 00:03:42,839 --> 00:03:40,090 they ultimately meet up with a marine 74 00:03:46,590 --> 00:03:42,849 biologist who shares a personal sighting 75 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:46,600 as well UFO sightings from all these 76 00:03:50,670 --> 00:03:48,609 fishermen highlighted on the episode 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:50,680 share similar characteristics to the 78 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:53,290 Nimitz tick-tack UFO although the 79 00:03:58,470 --> 00:03:56,079 physical descriptions varied the 80 00:04:01,080 --> 00:03:58,480 movements of the object were somewhat 81 00:04:03,330 --> 00:04:01,090 similar and the episode really tries to 82 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,340 make all these sightings somehow related 83 00:04:09,690 --> 00:04:05,760 to the Nimitz case there's also a 84 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:09,700 noticeable focus on the term hot spots 85 00:04:14,580 --> 00:04:12,609 in this episode on spots are essentially 86 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:14,590 an area with an unusually high 87 00:04:22,110 --> 00:04:18,310 concentration of UFO sightings and not 88 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:22,120 surprisingly yet again we hear plenty in 89 00:04:27,180 --> 00:04:24,340 this episode about the stigma 90 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:27,190 surrounding the UFO topic and Lou's 91 00:04:32,159 --> 00:04:29,680 desire to D stigmatize the topic of UFOs 92 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:32,169 get rid of that ridicule factor so 93 00:04:37,409 --> 00:04:34,720 people especially military personnel 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:37,419 feel comfortable reporting and talking 95 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:41,289 about UFOs there were a couple things I 96 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:43,380 really liked seeing in this episode 97 00:04:48,570 --> 00:04:46,630 first what I just mentioned the 98 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:48,580 continued recognition of the ridicule 99 00:04:53,730 --> 00:04:51,370 factor in the focus on explaining why 100 00:04:54,350 --> 00:04:53,740 it's important to lessen that stigma 101 00:04:56,959 --> 00:04:54,360 around the 102 00:05:00,170 --> 00:04:56,969 topic in order for us to research it 103 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:00,180 properly and hopefully understand it 104 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:03,810 better second I appreciated lose stating 105 00:05:09,770 --> 00:05:06,330 that 99% of UFO sightings are 106 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:09,780 explainable although I personally think 107 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:12,210 that number is more in the 90 to 95 108 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:14,340 percent range I love hearing that 109 00:05:18,529 --> 00:05:17,039 emphasized because it's so important to 110 00:05:21,429 --> 00:05:18,539 keep that in mind when it comes to 111 00:05:24,529 --> 00:05:21,439 researching and investigating UFO cases 112 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:24,539 additionally I appreciated the attempt 113 00:05:31,459 --> 00:05:27,650 no matter how limited or brief they were 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:31,469 to explore conventional explanations and 115 00:05:36,610 --> 00:05:33,210 look for possible scientific 116 00:05:39,740 --> 00:05:36,620 explanations for the reported sightings 117 00:05:42,980 --> 00:05:39,750 one thing I did find intriguing in this 118 00:05:47,179 --> 00:05:42,990 episode was related to comments made by 119 00:05:50,089 --> 00:05:47,189 Lou Elizondo he reiterated that he can't 120 00:05:52,429 --> 00:05:50,099 talk about what they did or what he 121 00:05:55,070 --> 00:05:52,439 learned while working in the Pentagon's 122 00:05:57,189 --> 00:05:55,080 UFO program known as a tip the advanced 123 00:05:59,959 --> 00:05:57,199 aerospace threat identification program 124 00:06:02,600 --> 00:05:59,969 because what they worked on is still 125 00:06:04,450 --> 00:06:02,610 classified and because he signed a 126 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:04,460 nondisclosure agreement 127 00:06:10,339 --> 00:06:07,440 however as he's done on previous 128 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:10,349 episodes he brought up the five 129 00:06:15,170 --> 00:06:12,449 observables these extraordinary 130 00:06:17,119 --> 00:06:15,180 logic-defying capabilities most commonly 131 00:06:19,579 --> 00:06:17,129 associated with unidentified aerial 132 00:06:22,850 --> 00:06:19,589 phenomena sightings that were created by 133 00:06:26,540 --> 00:06:22,860 a tip he can talk about these apparently 134 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:26,550 but nothing else he also said something 135 00:06:33,649 --> 00:06:30,240 else interesting that at a tip he could 136 00:06:34,579 --> 00:06:33,659 only interview military personnel not 137 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:34,589 civilians 138 00:06:39,409 --> 00:06:37,650 I found that curious because from 139 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:39,419 previous information we've heard about a 140 00:06:45,589 --> 00:06:42,240 tip and the work had performed we've 141 00:06:46,149 --> 00:06:45,599 been told that civilians were a big part 142 00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:46,159 of it 143 00:06:50,950 --> 00:06:48,419 civilians were the ones who claimed to 144 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:50,960 be in possession of UFO material 145 00:06:55,309 --> 00:06:53,759 civilians are among those who were 146 00:06:57,379 --> 00:06:55,319 studied when the group was researching 147 00:07:01,610 --> 00:06:57,389 possible health effects associated with 148 00:07:03,699 --> 00:07:01,620 proximity to UFOs and many if not most 149 00:07:06,580 --> 00:07:03,709 of the people involved with the project 150 00:07:10,570 --> 00:07:06,590 were government contractors 151 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:10,580 civilians not military personnel so 152 00:07:15,850 --> 00:07:12,770 hopefully we get some clarification on 153 00:07:18,610 --> 00:07:15,860 that issue in the future but overall 154 00:07:21,340 --> 00:07:18,620 episode three was fun I enjoyed some of 155 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:21,350 the issues raised and it was cool to see 156 00:07:26,650 --> 00:07:23,570 bigshot political consultant John 157 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:26,660 Podesta make another appearance will see 158 00:07:34,750 --> 00:07:28,250 where the show takes us in the next 159 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:37,060 [Music] 160 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:39,470 well citizens as we wrap up this brief 161 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:41,570 episode I invite you to come join us in 162 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:42,890 the rogue planet Facebook group at 163 00:07:47,860 --> 00:07:46,310 facebook.com slash groups / row planet 164 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:47,870 we'd love to hear your thoughts on the 165 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:49,610 third episode of unidentified or 166 00:07:55,150 --> 00:07:51,890 anything else ufo-related that's on your 167 00:07:57,370 --> 00:07:55,160 mind just a quick heads-up we won't be 168 00:07:59,740 --> 00:07:57,380 publishing a new episode next week 169 00:08:03,130 --> 00:07:59,750 because the rogue planet team will be 170 00:08:05,380 --> 00:08:03,140 busy at alien con so we'll cover two 171 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:05,390 episodes of unidentified the following 172 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:07,970 week and of course we'll tell you all 173 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